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Pontiac GTO, Pontiac Lemans, Pontiac Tempest, The best source for GTO books, GTO parts, GTO pictures, GTO links,production numbers and Vin Decoder 1965 Pontiac GTO Production Figures and Specifications. 2-door coupe 2-door sedan Convertible Tri-Power 389 4-bbl Manual transmission Automatic transmission Total Production: 55,722 8,319 11,311 20,547 54,805 56,378. Is constantly updating the Pontiac GTO Web site. Can someone tell me if vin number 277 is a good number for a 1965 GTO convertible or is this car a clone? I have been looking for a car and dont want to get ripped off Reply Quote. 1965 Pontiac vehicle identification number (vin) decoder. PONTIAC: 1960-61 - 1962-63 - 1964 - 1966 - 1967 - 1968 - 1969 - 1970 - 1971 - 1972 - 1973 - 1974-1975: 1965.

64 GTO VIN GR-RRR!

Data Plate or Body Tag is located on the left hand front of the firewall, in the engine compartment. 1964 Data Plate PONTIAC DIV. GENERAL MOTORS CORP. 05APONTIAC, MICHIGAN STYLE 64-2237 BODY FE 1234 TRIM 214 PAINT R R ACC. 0-0-00-00 THIS CAR FINISHED WITH Magic-Mirror ACRYLIC LACQUER BODY BY FISHER 05A=Time Built Code(May,1st week) STYLE=Model Year(64)-Car Division(2=Pontiac)-Series(2=Lemans) -Body Style(37=Hardtop) BODY=Body Number(1234) FE=Assembly Plant(FE=Fremont,CA) TRIM=Trim Code(214=Interior Black) PAINT=Paint Code(R=Alamo Beige) ACC.=Accessories Code VIN Plate is located on the left front door hinge pillar. It is under the upper hinge. 1964 VIN Plate 824P100001 8=8 Cylinder 2=Series Number(2=Le Mans) 4=Year(4=1964) P=Assembly Plant(P=Pontiac,MI) 100001=Production Number 1964 Production Numbers Coupes 7,384 Hardtops 18,422 Convertibles 6,644 Total 32,450 1964-1974 Production Numbers 65 GTO VIN GR-RRR!

Data Plate or Body Tag for 1965 is located on the left hand front of the firewall, in the engine compartment. 1965 Data Plates(Two were used) PONTIAC DIV. GENERAL MOTORS CORP.05APONTIAC, MICHIGAN STYLE 65-23737 BODY BF 1234 TRIM 213-30 PAINT 000 ACC. 0-0-00-00 THIS CAR FINISHED WITH Magic-Mirror ACRYLIC LACQUER BODY BY FISHER GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION04B STYLE 65-23737 BF 12345 BODY TRIM 213-30 C C PAINT ACC. 0-0-00-00 BODY BY FISHER 04B=Time Built Code(April,2nd week) STYLE=Model Year(65)-Car Division(2)-Series(37=Lemans)-Body Style(37=Hardtop) BF=Assembly Plant(BF=Fremont,CA) BODY=Body Number(12345) TRIM=Trim Code(213-30=Black) PAINT=C C(Lower & Upper Body Colors,C=Cameo Ivory) ACC.=Accessories Code VIN Plate for 1965 is located on the left front door hinge pillar. It is under the upper hinge. 1965 VIN Plate 237375K100001 2=Division (Pontiac) 37=Series Number(Lemans) 37=Body Style Code Number (Hardtop,2-door) 5=Year(1965) K=Assembly Plant(Kansas City, MO) 100001=Production Numbers 1965 Production Numbers Coupes 8,319 Hardtops 55,722 Convertibles 11,311 Total 75,352 1964-1974 Production Numbers 66 GTO VIN GR-RRR!

Data Plate or Body Tag for 1966 is located on the left hand front of the firewall, in the engine compartment. 1966 Data Plate GENERAL MOTORS CORP.09D STYLE 66-24217 PON 1234 BODY TRIM 223 V V PAINT 0-0-00-00BODY BY FISHER 09D=Time Built Code(September,4th week) STYLE=Model Year(66)-Division(2=Pontiac)-Series (42=GTO)-Body Style(17=Hardtop,2-dr) PON=Assembly Plant(P=Pontiac,MI) BODY=Body Number(1234) TRIM=Trim Code(223=Black Interior) PAINT=V V(Lower & Upper Body Colors,V=Mission Beige) 0-0-00-00=Accessories Code VIN Plate for 1966 is located on the left front door hinge pillar. It is under the upper hinge. 1966 VIN Plate PONTIAC242076G100001 2=Division(Pontiac) 42=Series Number(GTO) 07=Body Style(2-dr Sedan-Post) 6=Year(1966) G=Assembly Plant(G=Framingham,MA) 100001=Production Numbers 1966 Production Numbers Coupes 10,363 Hardtops 73,785 Convertibles 12,798 Total 96,946 1964-1974 Production Numbers 67 GTO VIN GR-RRR!

Data Plate or Body Tag for 1967 is located on the left hand front of the firewall, in the engine compartment. 1967 Data Plate GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION09D STYLE 67-24217 PON 1234 BODY TRIM 223 R 2 PAINT 0-0-00-00 BODY BY FISHER 09D=Time Built Code(September,4th week) STYLE=Model Year(67)-Division(2=Pontiac)-Series (42=GTO) -Body Style(17=Hardtop,2-dr) PON=Assembly Plant(P=Pontiac,MI) BODY=Body Number(1234) TRIM=Trim Code(223=Black Interior) PAINT=R 2(Lower & Upper Body Colors,R=Regimental Red,2=Black Vinyl) 0-0-00-00=Accessories Code VIN Plate for 1967 is located on the left front door hinge pillar. It is under the upper hinge. 1967 VIN Plate PONTIAC242077G100001 2=Division(Pontiac) 42=Series Number(GTO) 07=Body Style(2-dr Coupe-Post) 7=Year(1967) G=Assembly Plant(G=Framingham,MA) 100001=Production Numbers 1967 Production Numbers Coupes 7,029 Hardtops 65,176 Convertibles 9,517 Total 81,722 1964-1974 Production Numbers 68 GTO VIN GR-RRR!

Data Plate or Body Tag for 1968 was moved from the firewall to the left hand top of the cowl, near the hood hinge. 1968 Data Plate BODY BY FISHER01A ST 68-24237 PON 123456 BODY TR 223 R R PAINT GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION CERTIFIES TO THE DEALER THAT THIS VEHICLE CONFORMS TO ALL FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS APPLICABLE AT TIME OF MANUFACTURE 01A=Time Built Code(January,1st week) ST=Model Year(68)-Division(2=Pontiac) -Series(42=GTO) -Body Style(37=Hardtop,2-dr) PON=Assembly Plant(PON=Pontiac,MI) BODY=Body Number(123456) TRIM=Trim Number(223=Black Interior) PAINT=Lower & Upper Body Colors(R=Solar Red) In 1968 the VIN Plate was moved to the left hand top of the instrument panel, which is visible through the windshield. 1968 VIN Plate PONTIAC242378R100001 2=Division (Pontiac) 42=Series Number(GTO) 37=Body Style(2-dr Hardtop) 8=Year(1968) R=Assembly Plant(R=Arlington,TX) 100001=Production Numbers 1968 Production Numbers Hardtops 77,704 Convertibles 9,980 Total 87,684 1964-1974 Production Numbers 69 GTO VIN GR-RRR!

Data Plate or Body Tag for 1969 is located on the left hand top of the cowl, near the hood hinge. 1969 Data Plate BODY BY FISHER ST 69-24237 BAL 123456 BODY TR 258 06E 67 67 PAINT GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION CERTIFIES TO THE DEALER THAT THIS VEHICLE CONFORMS TO ALL FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS APPLICABLE AT TIME OF MANUFACTURE ST=Model Year(69)-Division(2=Pontiac) -Series(42=GTO) -Body Style(37=Hardtop,2-dr) BAL=Assembly Plant(BAL=Baltimore,MD) BODY=Body Number(123456) TRIM=Trim Number(258=Black Interior) 06E=Time Built Code(June,5th week) PAINT=Lower & Upper Body Colors(67=Burgundy) The VIN Plate for 1969 is located on the left hand top of the instrument panel, which is visible through the windshield. 1969 VIN Plate 242379A100001 2=Division(Pontiac) 42=Series Number(GTO) 37=Body Style Code Number 9=Year(1969) A=Assembly Plant(A=Atlanta,GA) 100001=Production Numbers 1969 Production Numbers Hardtops 58,126 Convertibles 7,328 Judge Hardtops 6,725 Judge Convertibles 108 Total 72,287 1964-1974 Production Numbers 70 GTO VIN GR-RRR!

Data Plate or Body Tag for 1970 is located on the left hand top of the cowl, near the hood hinge. 1970 Data Plate BODY BY FISHER ST 70-24237 PON 123456 BDY TR 258 07C 75 75 PNT 000000GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION CERTIFIES TO THE DEALER THAT THIS VEHICLE CONFORMS TO ALL U.S. FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS APPLICABLE AT TIME OF MANUFACTURE ST=Model Year(70)-Car Division(2=Pontiac) -Series(42=GTO)-Body Style(37=Hardtop,2-door) PON=Assembly Plant BDY=Body Number(123456) TR=Trim Combination Number(258=Black Interior) 07C=Build Date(July,3rd week) PNT=Lower Body Color(75=Cardinal Red)-Upper Body Color or Fabric Color(75=Cardinal Red) 000 000=Accessories Code The VIN Plate for 1970 is located on the left hand top of the instrument panel, which is visible through the windshield. 1970 VIN Plate 2426701100001 2=Division(Pontiac) 42=Series Number(GTO) 67=Body Style Code Number(Convertible,2-door) 0=Year(1970) 1=Assembly Plant(1=Oshawa,CAN-1970 0nly) 100001=Serial Numbers 1970 Production Numbers Hardtops 32,731 Convertibles 3,621 Judge Hardtops 3,635 Judge Convertibles 162 Total 40,149 1964-1974 Production Numbers 71 GTO VIN GR-RRR!

Data Plate or Body Tag for 1971 is located on the left hand top of the cowl, near the hood hinge. 1971 Data Plate BODY BY FISHER ST 71-24237 PON 123456 BDY TR 269 07C 61 61 PNT 000000GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION CERTIFIES TO THE DEALER THAT THIS VEHICLE CONFORMS TO ALL U.S. FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS APPLICABLE AT TIME OF MANUFACTURE ST=Model Year(71)-Car Division(2=Pontiac)-Series(42=GTO) -Body Style(37=Hardtop,2-door) PON=Assembly Plant BDY=Body Number(123456) TR=Trim Combination Number(269=Black Interior) 07C=Build Date(July,3rd week) PNT=Lower Body Color(61=Sandalwood)-Upper Body Color or Fabric Color(61=Sandalwood) 000 000=Accessories Code The VIN Plate for 1971 is located on the left hand top of the instrument panel, which is visible through the windshield. 1971 VIN Plate 242671A100001 2=Division(Pontiac) 42=Series Number(GTO) 67=Body Style(Convertible,2-door) 1=Year(1971) A=Assembly Plant(A=Atlanta,GA) 100001=Serial Numbers 1971 Production Numbers Hardtops 9,497 Convertibles 661 Judge Hardtops 357 Judge Convertibles 17 Total 10,532 1964-1974 Production Numbers 72 GTO VIN GR-RRR!

Data Plate or Body Tag for 1972 is located on the left hand top of the cowl, near the hood hinge. 1972 Data Plate BODY BY FISHER ST 72-23537 P 123456 BDY TR 256 A51 75 75 PNT 07CGENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION CERTIFIES TO THE DEALER THAT THIS VEHICLE CONFORMS TO ALL U.S. FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS APPLICABLE AT TIME OF MANUFACTURE ST=Model Year(72)-Car Division(2=Pontiac)-Series (35=LeMans)-Body Style(37=Hardtop,2-door) P=Assembly Plant BDY=Body Number(123456) TR=Trim Combination Number(256=Black Interior) A51=Seat Type(Bucket) PNT=Lower Body Color (75=Cardinal Red)-Upper Body Color or Fabric Color(75=Cardinal Red) 07C=Build Date(July,3rd week) In 1972 the VIN Plate is located on the left hand top of the instrument panel, which is visible through the windshield. 1972 VIN Plate 2D37T2P100001 2=Division(Pontiac) D=Series Number 37=Body Style Code Number(Hardtop,2-door) T=Engine Code 2=Year(1972) P=Assembly Plant 100001=Serial Numbers 1972 Production Numbers Coupes 134 Hardtops 5,673 Total 5,807 1964-1974 Production Numbers 73 GTO VIN GR-RRR!

Data Plate or Body Tag for 1973 is located on the left hand top of the cowl, near the hood hinge. 1973 Data Plate BODY BY FISHER ST 73-2AD37 P 123456 BDY TR 296 A51 74 74 PNT 09DGENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION CERTIFIES TO THE DEALER THAT THIS VEHICLE CONFORMS TO ALL U.S. FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS APPLICABLE AT TIME OF MANUFACTURE ST=Model Year(73)-Car Division(2=Pontiac)-Series(AD=Le Mans)-Body Style(37=Hardtop,2-door) P=Assembly Plant(P=Pontiac) BDY=Body Number(123456) TR=Trim Combination Number(296=Black Interior) A51=Seat Type(Bucket) PNT=Lower and Upper Body Colors(74=Florentine Red) 09D=Build Code Date(September,4th week) The VIN Plate for the 1973 is located on the left hand top of the instrument panel, which is visible through the windshield. 1973 VIN Plate 2D37Y3P100001 2=Division(Pontiac) D=Series Number 37=Body Style Code Number(Hardtop,2-door) Y=Engine Code 3=Year(1973) P=Assembly Plant 100001=Serial Numbers 1973 Production Numbers Coupes 494 Sports Coupes 4,312 Total 4,806 1964-1974 Production Numbers 74 GTO VIN GR-RRR!

Data Plate or Body Tag for 1974 is on the left hand top of the cowl, near the hood hinge. 1974 Data Plate BODY BY FISHER ST 74-2XY27 W 123456 BDY TR 542 A51 75 75 PNT 09DGENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION CERTIFIES TO THE DEALER THAT THIS VEHICLE CONFORMS TO ALL U.S. FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS APPLICABLE AT TIME OF MANUFACTURE ST=Model Year(74)-Car Division(2=Pontiac)-Series (XY=Ventura)-Body Style(27=Coupe,2-door) W=Assembly Plant (W=Willow Run,MI) BDY=Body Number(123456) TR=Trim Combination Number(542=White Interior) A51=Seat Type(Bucket) PNT=Lower and Upper Body Colors(75=Buccaneer Red) 09D=Build Code Date(September,4th week) The VIN Plate for the 1974 is located on the left hand top of the instrument panel, which is visible through the windshield. 1974 VIN Plate 2Y27K4W100001 2=Division(Pontiac) Y=Series Number(Y=Ventura) 27=Body Style Code Number(Coupe,2-door) K=Engine Code(350 CID) 4=Year(1974) W=Assembly Plant(W=Willow Run,MI) 100001=Serial Numbers 1974 Production Numbers Coupes 5,335 Hatchback 1,723 Total 7,058 1964-1974 Production Numbers 2004-06 GTO VIN GR-RRR! '09 - '10 Firebird and GTO Fate Confirmed The magazine had a telephone conversation with Pontiac Communications Manager Jim Hopson. He states that as of now there will not be a new Firebird or GTO in the development plans for at least two years. He contends that anything beyond two years is not set in stone. The G8 seems to be the RWD performance Pontiac for now. The question is: Can the V-8 RWD G8 appease Pontiac fans pining for a Firebird or GTO? Only time and sales figures will tell. Information in this article was written by Thomas A. DeMauro. If you would like to read it in it's entirety, go to High Performance Pontiac magazine dated July 2008. Visitor's Ride Jeremy's 2006 GTO • The 2006 GTO started at $31,990 * MSRP. Some of the features and specifications are listed below that came on the 2006 GTO. Engine All-aluminum 6.0L Gen IV LS2 V8 engine with 400 hp and 400 lb-ft torque. Transmission Standard 4L65-E 4-speed automatic transmission. Available Tremec close-ratio 6-speed manual. Features Exhaust outlets, split dual with single chrome-tipped outlets. Hood scoops. Spoiler, rear, aerodynamic. EPA mileage estimates** 6.0L automatic: 16/21 (city/highway mpg) 6.0L manual: 17/25 (city/highway mpg) Standard Capacities Fuel tank: 18 gallons (approx.) Seating: 4 Data Plate or Body Tag for 2004 is located on the left hand front of the cowl, near the radiator. 2004 Data Plate Model V28VX37-346-3PD Body No. 6G2VX12G94L202428 Trim 81I A/C C60 Paint KO25 Built NOV03 Susp. FE2 Eng. LS1 Trans. M12 Axle G59 Model = Model codes Body No. = VIN Number Trim = Black Interior A/C = Air Conditioning Code Paint = Phantom Black Built = Build Date Code Susp. = Suspension Code Eng. = LS1 5.7 Litre Trans. = 6 Speed Manual Axle = Axle Code The 04-06 GTO | VIN is located on the left hand top of the instrument panel, which is visible through the windshield. 2004 VIN Plate 6G2VX12G54L175910 6 = Asia Pacific region (Australia) G = GM (GMH) 2 = Pontiac V = Body Style (V2 Series) X = GTO 1 = Coupe 2 = Number of Air Bags G = Pontiac GTO 5.7 Litre engine 5 = Security Check Digit 0-9 & X 4 = 2004 L = Elizabeth Plant 175910 = Sequence Number 2004 - 2006 GTO Pontiac information about the 2006 GTO. Information includes: A 400hp V8, LS2 and a Standard 4L65-E 4-speed Transmission custom tailored and performance tuned, the 4-Speed Automatic provides performance that rivals that of the Tremec given a 0 to 60 time of 4.6 seconds. Colors include: Brazen Orange Metallic, Cyclone Gray Metallic, Impulse Blue Metallic, Phantom Black Metallic, Quicksilver Metallic, Spice Red Metallic and Torrid Red. Visitor's Ride Camaro and Firebird Concept Cars! Sign up and get FREE access to exclusive coupons, guides, and Andy's TV episodes!

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I'm actively pursuing the purchase of a 1965 GTO I'm look for what
delineates a REAL GTO. I know that the cowl tag has to have a 42 vs at 37
(which is a LeMans) but it seems to me that 64-65 all seem to have 37 and
the 42 doesn't seem to appear until 66 and later. How can I tell if a 64 or 65
is a 'real' GTO? Is there something on the Bill of sale or on the car that will
satisfy the identification. What are the qualifier(s) that will ID the car as a
GTO?

The 1964 GTO had headlights side-by-side horizontal and a very definitive GTO on the grille

A 1964 will have a 389 with 3 - two bbl carbs

1964 Le Mans. Only has 'Pontiac' on the grille. As for paperwork, it's been like 45 years.. so that I can't help with but I had a '64 GTO

But the next year, they put the headlights vertical.. a '65

Not sure we are answering his question. Sounds like, by body style, he has a 65 but does not know if it was made as a GTO or another model (lemans, tempest, etc) and cloned later in its life to appear to be a true factory GTO. Anyone know of a key in the VIN that would tell him what is came off the production line as?

Good point taver91. Just doing the best I could. But really - if the grille is gone, which is understandable on a 50 year old car- man idk

Contact Allied Vaughn will your vehicle identification number. For $50. you can get a copy of your specific car's factory to dealer invoice. That'll show you exactly what you have. Google 'gm media archives' to find Allied Vaughn. HTH. -Jim

Jim. My man. Thanks, on behalf of the OP

A 1964 'Tempest G.T.O.' as outlined in The Encyclopedia of American Cars 1940 thru 1970 shows the following model numbers: 2227 Sport Coupe, 2237 Hardtop Coupe, and 2267 Convertible Coupe.For 1965 five digit model numbers are used: 23727 GTO Sport Coupe, 23737 GTO Hardtop Coupe, and 23767 GTO Convertible Coupe. Also, in 1965 the GTO was 'absorbed' into the Tempest LeMans line. Model number prefix 237. Then the last two digits defined the specific body style and GTO or non-GTO. If Pontiac was doing their vehicle identification numbers, in 1965, like they were in 1970. Those five model number digits will be the first five characters of the vehicle identification number. Then a '5' to designate a 1965 model, then a letter, which was the assembly plant, then finally the last six digits are the sequential unit number of the car. For example my '70 Catalina vehicle identification number decodes as follows 25236OE------. 252=Catalina, 36=six passenger station wagon, 0=1970, E=Linden, NJ Assembly Plant, the last six numbers were the unit number of my car. HTH. -Jim

You're welcome, Fordnut. I was still typing when you posted, lol. Anytime. -Jim

Hey Jim, In reading your comments above I have a question. here is my manifest which says model 237....shouldn't this say 2237 for a 64 GTO?? seems to almost say that its an absorbed 65 tempest lemans..but its a 64 manifest. what are your thoughts? thanks alot

Not sure how well this photo is going to reproduce but it's from my Encyclopedia of American Cars 1940 thru 1970. It appears to me that the first 2 in 2237 simply designated Pontiac Division of GM. Then the model number of 237 indicates a LeMans or GTO hardtop coupe body style. The GTO was essentially an option package for the LeMans. Both were the same body 'shell' so they both have the same model number of 237, in your case. Other option codes are what changed it to the GTO status. HTH. -Jim

thanks a lot Jim....Travis

You're welcome, Travis. Glad to help. -Jim

65 GTO will have an 'N' on category 5 on cowl plate on fire wall.. depicted as 5N

1964-65 the GTO was an option on the Tempest LeMans. 1966-71 it was its own model with 242 VIN. 1972-74 it was an option again. Contact PHS Online with the VIN and get their report. It is the gold standard as anyone in POCI or GTOAA will tell you. Please ignore suggestions about getting one from any other vendor. Any real buyer will insist on PHS docs and will dismiss anything else.

fordnut...64 came with a 325hp 389....the optional 348hp 389 was extra $$...tri-power as I was called was available until 66...67 came only with 4bbl qudra-jet....64 and 65 was part of tempest/lemans...66 was a separate name.

1964 & 1965 was the only year it was an option on the Lemans. In 1966 was the 1st year to be a seperate GTO model, but was called a Tempest GTO in Pontiac codes. 64 & 65 sales went thru the roof, is the reason why. They could charge more as a seperate model over an option. On the 64 & 65 cowl tag it would have a 10. That was the GTO option #. Go here for all Pontiacs 1960-1975. http://www.tpocr.com/pontiacbp4.html These are helpful Pontiac sites http://pontiacregistry.com/ http://www.gtoheaven.com/links.html

The only true way to hundred percent prove that you have a 64 65 GTO is with PHS documentation go to Phs-onlne.com pay your $75 and they'll send you the pedigree on your car.

For 1964 the only way to tell for sure that the car IS a GTO is to have it verified by the Pontiac Historical Society (PHS). However, there are numerous ways to tell that the car is NOT a GTO. First, a Lemans would have louvres on the bottom forward section of both quarter panels. A GTO does not. If louvres are present, it is not a GTO. Second, the radiator core support for a GTO will be inverted (won't hold water) at the bottom; on a Lemans or Tempest the core support will be U shaped (will hold water) EXCEPT, if the car was a factory AC car, in which case the former core support was used to allow for a heavy duty radiator. Third, if the GTO emblems on the rear quarter panels are placed in the exact same symmetric position the car is likely a clone, as the factory templates for installing the emblems put them in two slightly different locations relative to the rear and the height of the quarter panel. Lastly, if the VIN on the car begins with '624' instead of '824' the car is a clone, as the '6' denotes a six-cylinder engine. If the car has a '5N' on the data plate on the firewall it could be a GTO, as one of the plants used that designation for GTO's in 1964. But, not all of the plants did so; therefore the lack of a 5N does not preclude the car from being a true goat. VIN plates and firewall data plates can be swapped, louvres can be removed and the hole filled, and even core supports can be switched out. The only way to know for sure is to run the VIN by PHS and even then if the data plate has been switched you may not know. The VIN was also stamped into the top of the frame rail under the trunk pan behind the left rear wheel, however, the only way to actually see it is to remove the car from the frame, as most frame rails are filthy with dirt and rust, making it necessary to use a wire brush to clean it up enough to see it. And, even at that, the frame could have been switched if the car had been in a wreck at some point and a boneyard frame was used to replace the original.

I have a 1965 GTO clone for sale. The car vin shows that it was manufactured as a Tempest and was “GTOed. I have been told that over 70% of Tempest were GTOed. My car has red exterior and black vinyl bucket seats. Paint and interior are in excellent condition. Car is 4 speed with console. I had a brand new GM 400 cubic inch V8 engine installed in 2016. New motor has less than 10k miles. Rally wheels and excellent tires. Call or e-mail me. Tim Ellington (404) 213-7307 t.ellington1@comcast.net

Hello, I have a 1965 GTO Pontiac Plant with 5N at the bottom of the firewall tag. I’m getting ready for a full resto-mod restoration. It’s a shell right now. Rolling frame and body with doors and trunk lid, that’s it. Anyone know of a designation for the drag car options on the tag? Option was 390 or 453 (if I remember right) for the rear gears with the M-21 4-speed close ratio trans (not available without special rear gears). I special ordered one in 1965, wish I could find it. I’m buying another 1965 GTO from a family member, still has original paint so switching rear quarter emblems without being noticed is tough. One note, only the LeMans Body was used for the GTO option in 1965, the first numbers after the usual 2 being 37. Any good used front fenders available? Thanks

• How do i Identify of a real GTO 64 or 65 since there is a 37 on firewall tag.22 Answers

  I'm actively pursuing the purchase of a 1965 GTO I'm look for what delineates a REAL GTO. I know that the cowl tag has to have a 42 vs at 37 (which is a LeMans) but it seems to me that 64-65 all see...

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